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  • #76
    G'day Mick

    Thanks for posting that.

    I note that it says 258Y for Amos.

    Elsewhere he's referred to as 24 [or was it 26] Y.
    G U T

    There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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    • #77
      Numbers...

      Originally posted by GUT View Post
      G'day Mick

      Thanks for posting that.

      I note that it says 258Y for Amos.

      Elsewhere he's referred to as 24 [or was it 26] Y.
      Hi Both,
      Yes, mentioned this on an earlier post yesterday. Does anyone know if the personal police badge number would change on promotion or district change?

      Amanda

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Amanda View Post
        Hi Both,
        Yes, mentioned this on an earlier post yesterday. Does anyone know if the personal police badge number would change on promotion or district change?

        Amanda
        Hello Amanda

        I don't know but Ed or Neil probably would.
        Mick Reed

        Whatever happened to scepticism?

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        • #79
          Originally posted by GUT View Post
          G'day Mick

          Thanks for posting that.

          I note that it says 258Y for Amos.

          Elsewhere he's referred to as 24 [or was it 26] Y.
          I think he was 26Y, although one press report has him as 26Y R.

          24Y was another man altogether.

          MrB

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          • #80
            Confused...

            Originally posted by MrBarnett View Post
            I think he was 26Y, although one press report has him as 26Y R.

            24Y was another man altogether.

            MrB
            Hi Mr B,

            So is it our Amos Simpson number 258 Y in the article or not?

            Amanda

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            • #81
              Amanda,

              I think 26Y probably is our man.

              And he had some balls, don't you think, arresting one troublemaker amongst a group of 20 in Ossulston Street, Somerstown, which was pretty rough at the time?

              From what I have read, 24Y was a certain Frederick Abberline.

              MrB

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              • #82
                Originally posted by mickreed View Post
                Hello Amanda

                I don't know but Ed or Neil probably would.
                17th March? My birthday!

                Thanks you all.

                Constables mainly had 3 digit collar numbers, sergeants and inspectors 2 digits. The R meant he was in reserve.

                The change from 258Y to 26Y would tie in with his promotion to acting sergeant.

                Monty
                Last edited by Monty; 09-21-2014, 04:45 PM.
                Monty

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by MrBarnett View Post
                  Amanda,

                  I think 26Y probably is our man.

                  And he had some balls, don't you think, arresting one troublemaker amongst a group of 20 in Ossulston Street, Somerstown, which was pretty rough at the time?

                  From what I have read, 24Y was a certain Frederick Abberline.

                  MrB
                  G'day Mr B yes I knew that Abberline was 24 or 26 I just couldn't remember which was which.

                  How certain are we though that Amos was 26Y and not 258Y?

                  From my research [and don't know anywhere near as much as Monty] they retained their number.
                  G U T

                  There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by GUT View Post
                    G'day Mr B yes I knew that Abberline was 24 or 26 I just couldn't remember which was which.

                    How certain are we though that Amos was 26Y and not 258Y?

                    From my research [and don't know anywhere near as much as Monty] they retained their number.
                    I'd assumed (possibly wrongly) that the Y referred to Y division. If he moved divisions - as he did from N to Y - would the letter change? And indeed would the number change?
                    Mick Reed

                    Whatever happened to scepticism?

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by mickreed View Post
                      I'd assumed (possibly wrongly) that the Y referred to Y division. If he moved divisions - as he did from N to Y - would the letter change? And indeed would the number change?
                      G'day Mick

                      I'm looking into that.

                      It may be that he was 26Y transferred [possibly more than once] then back to Y as 248Y.

                      Monty will probably tell us before I track it down.

                      Come on Monty we need your book.
                      G U T

                      There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by GUT View Post
                        G'day Mick


                        Come on Monty we need your book.
                        Well, stop sending him to Cheshunt then
                        Mick Reed

                        Whatever happened to scepticism?

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by GUT View Post
                          G'day Mick

                          I'm looking into that.

                          It may be that he was 26Y transferred [possibly more than once] then back to Y as 248Y.

                          Monty will probably tell us before I track it down.

                          Come on Monty we need your book.
                          My opening post explains the move from Y to N. Simpson didn't move, Cheshunt station did.

                          Monty
                          Monty

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                          Author of Capturing Jack the Ripper.

                          http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/1445621622

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Monty View Post
                            My opening post explains the move from Y to N. Simpson didn't move, Cheshunt station did.

                            Monty
                            G'day Monty

                            But would his number have changed?
                            G U T

                            There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by GUT View Post
                              G'day Monty

                              But would his number have changed?
                              Yes, he would have been assigned a new Divisional collar number from N divisions ledger.

                              Monty
                              Monty

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                              Author of Capturing Jack the Ripper.

                              http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/1445621622

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Monty View Post
                                Yes, he would have been assigned a new Divisional collar number from N divisions ledger.

                                Monty
                                Thanks just saved me an hour or so looking
                                G U T

                                There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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