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The Goad map of the western side of Brick Ln, between Wentworth and Thrawl Streets, gives the yard between Taylor's and No 7 as being an opening with a 'passage under' it would seem therefore to be a covered entrance - the gate is pure conjecture on behalf, imagining that it is a loading bay or some such for the factory.
Hi David, that's very useful information and a very keen observation on your part. Thanks. Is there a scan of this on this or another thread where it has this info?

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Hi Tom

Check out the link in post #17 - it leads to one of Rob Clack's postings

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Dave,

Thank you for pointing me to that post, and to David for providing the ‘key’ definition. This locale is more in line with Miller’s Court than with Berner Street or Buck’s Row, as only Miller’s Court had a covered entry such as is shown on this Goad’s map. By chance does Miller Court appear just like this on the 1890 Goads?

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Hi Tom

This is all I have to hand at the moment (not on my home computer), but you're right Miller's Court does have the same entryway - the two curved ends - |) (|


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Thank you for pointing me to that post, and to David for providing the ‘key’ definition. This locale is more in line with Miller’s Court than with Berner Street or Buck’s Row, as only Miller’s Court had a covered entry such as is shown on this Goad’s map. By chance does Miller Court appear just like this on the 1890 Goads?

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Thanks Rob

The seeming absence of houses, (not to mention the big 'E' on the OS map) made things difficult, so it's good to have that sorted.

I assume the covered entrance was to a loading yard of some such, used by the factory. I imagine it was gated, which is of interest considering Nichols, Stride and Eddowes, even if it's unlikely that Emma Smith was a Ripper victim.
I agree Bridewell, I suspect little had changed for the Goads, so therefore 3 loading bays, and engineers shed and van shed.

Also hay lofts.

The ) is the roof profile.

Here is a Goads key.

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Dave,

Thanks for posting the Millers Court map, and Monty for the very useful Goads key. It's interesting that the Millers Court entry is rendered much longer than the Brick Lane one, as I always thought of the Millers Court passage to be rather short.

I wonder if the presence of so many hay lofts in Brick Lane suggests a stable? Though one isn't listed Would all of these supplies have belonged to Taylor's, to the business at number 7, or someone entirely different who had rented out those spaces?

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Brace yourselves for a pedantic question.

Are we are looking at extracts from the 1890 Goads?

Is the key any different for this than the one kindly offered by Neil, Copyright 1926?

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I wonder if the presence of so many hay lofts in Brick Lane suggests a stable? Though one isn't listed Would all of these supplies have belonged to Taylor's, to the business at number 7, or someone entirely different who had rented out those spaces?
The presence of van storage suggested the same to me, Tom...and suggested delivery from the factory to at least wholesale outlets or railway yards etc...All surmise though at this stage...

Interesting parallel to Dutfields though...

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Hi Dave. The gate in front of which Polly Nichols was killed was identical in construction to the Dutfield's Yard gate and led into a stable. Of course, Dutfield's Yard was no longer a stable (Diemshitz housed his pony in George Yard, but not THE George Yard).

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The gate in front of which Polly Nichols was killed was identical in construction to the Dutfield's Yard gate and led into a stable.
Hi Tom.

Do you mean that the gate in Buck's Row had a "wicket" that let people pass through even if the gate itself was locked?

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