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03-30-2012, 04:48 AM
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Lynn,
Yes, H.L. Adams seems to have been a fascinating person. His experience with the crimes of that era make his suspicions about Severin intereswting indeed.
Don.
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03-30-2012, 04:57 AM
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Mrs. Tumblety
Hello Don. I'm halfway through Mike's Tumblety article and, given the discussion of his wife, I gave Ancestry a go. It may interest you to know that the good doctor is part of 8 different family trees, and he is listed as a "black sheep."
Wife? Always listed as without spouse. I tried marriage records. A no go. Wonder if that was a sort of "Harvey" for him?
Cheers.
LC
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03-30-2012, 05:07 AM
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Lynn,
A "Harvey" would seem an apt description, perhaps. Like the obviously gay director -- Corky St. Clair -- in "Waiting for Guffman" whose "wife" was always away from home. And what do make of the Florentine Venus and MJK? Quite uncanny for me.
Don.
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03-30-2012, 02:54 PM
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Venus
Hello Don. Having only glanced at the article, I can say merely that it is intriguing.
Cheers.
LC
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03-31-2012, 12:38 AM
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Venus
Hello Don. Having now FINISHED Mike's fine article, I can say that the Florentine Venus could explain some part of MJK's killing. It may, however, leave out the navel to knees mutilation.
Awaiting further investigation.
Cheers.
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03-31-2012, 10:08 PM
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Lynn,
I'm not sure it is navel to knees, but in any case the likeness to the Venus, with removable breasts and lower torso, is quite eerie and all the moreso when, as Mike pointed out, there was an anatomical museum in Whitechapel -- one that even had an exhibit on an earlier "Ripper murder."
Not sure what all this means in terms of Mike's main argument, that Tumblety could well have had anatomical exhibits, including uteri, in D.C. as reported years later by Dunham. However, it certainly opens up new lines of speculation regarding Kelly's murderer. It's a shame so many others seem indifferent.
Don.
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03-31-2012, 10:16 PM
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new lines
Hello Don.
"it certainly opens up new lines of speculation regarding Kelly's murderer."
It does, indeed. And frankly, it seems to make Fleming's stock go up a bit. It's easy to imagine an unbalanced working class person affording such an exhibit. And, given an obsessive, unhealthy relation with a young lady . . .
Cheers.
LC
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04-03-2012, 01:24 AM
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mission accomplished
Hello Don. Finally finished, and kudos to all. Jonathan's pieces were well written, providing much food for thought.
Nice, too, to see Adam's speculation about Monty's cause for suicide. Long over due.
Look forward to the next issue.
Cheers.
LC
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