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Old 05-01-2011, 08:35 PM
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I presume you mean White's alleged sighting and not Smith's.
Whether the alleged sighting took place is a debatable point. The whole article should be treated with caution. My opinion is something happened on one of the nights of the murders but was exaggerated quite a bit in the Peoples Journal article. That's just a gut feeling by me and not based on any solid evidence.
The most common setting for the alleged sighting is Mitre Square (I favour one of the entrances into the Square myself). Some authors have suggested Castle Alley where others think it relates to Berner Street, unfortunately it's all guesswork.
Somehow this reminds me of the story about a police officer (Robert Sagar?) observing a man of Jewish appearance coming out of a court in Mitre Square (as reported in The Daily News of January 9, 1905, The Morning Leader of January 9, 1905, and The Seattle Daily Times of February 4, 1905). In two of the reports the officer is said to have discovered Eddowes' body immediately afterwards. The Jewish man is described as "well-known" in The Daily News and "well dressed" in The Seattle Daily Times. It's been suggested that this may be the same suspect mentioned in the memoirs of Sagar's colleague, Henry Cox?
If the incident refers to Berner Street, this reminds me of Edward Spooner meeting "Mr. Harris“ on Fairclough Street shortly after Stride's body had been discovered – but no PC was involved in that incident.
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Old 05-09-2011, 08:16 PM
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I meant white of course.
I guess yor right about treating this story carefully.
(even though I`d love to belive it)
This probablly does not fit in this thread, but anyway,
does anyone here know where and if the ripper washed his hands on the night of the double event?
Since I`m currently making a timeline of it that information would be of some help.

greetings Lukas
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Old 05-10-2011, 12:24 AM
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I meant white of course.
I guess yor right about treating this story carefully.
(even though I`d love to belive it)
This probablly does not fit in this thread, but anyway,
does anyone here know where and if the ripper washed his hands on the night of the double event?
Since I`m currently making a timeline of it that information would be of some help.

greetings Lukas
Hi Lukas,

I'd love to believe it to, who knows one day we might find out for sure.

The Ripper washing his hands on the night of the double event is a myth and didn't happen. It started in Major Smith's book 'From Constable to Commissioner'. The place it was suppose to have happened was in Dorset Street, the exact location is unknown.

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Old 05-10-2011, 12:46 AM
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Hi Lukas,

I'd love to believe it to, who knows one day we might find out for sure.

The Ripper washing his hands on the night of the double event is a myth and didn't happen. It started in Major Smith's book 'From Constable to Commissioner'. The place it was suppose to have happened was in Dorset Street, the exact location is unknown.

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Thanks
Glad I got that figured out.
The first draft of the timeline is ready now,

http://forum.casebook.org/showthread.php?t=5646

I`d be glad if youd check it out and told me what you think,
maybe you have something to add/correct

Lukas
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Old 05-10-2011, 09:13 AM
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Sorry wrong link
heres a direct download link:

http://d2.myfreefilehosting.com/d1/double%20event.png
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Old 05-29-2011, 05:43 PM
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The file on the Ripper murders was never closed. These are undetected murders and the file remains open until that situation changes which, to the standard of proof which a criminal court would require, seems unlikely!
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Old 09-01-2011, 10:38 AM
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His hands were snow white, and fingers long and tapering.

If this episode did happen, then this fella didn't have blood on his hands.
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Old 09-01-2011, 05:38 PM
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The blood was on the side of the fingers away from White's view.
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Old 09-01-2011, 06:04 PM
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The blood was on the side of the fingers away from White's view.
Evidently.

And, he had long, tapering fingers built expressly for negotiating the insides of a deceased woman. A short, stout fellow with stumpy fingers would not have been able to get into the nooks and crannies.
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Old 09-01-2011, 07:48 PM
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He could if he cut them open wide enough. But White's suspect was very adept at hiding suspicious blots on his person.
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