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Old 02-04-2010, 02:11 AM
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Hi Pink,

I've heard that too, but considering over 200 books have been written about the JFK assassination, I'd say that doesn't add up. As for suspect books, they only become annoying after you've studied the case for quite a while. In the beginning, they're fun, they ARE the discovery. Once you know the basics of the case, you're not satisfied with them and want to make your own discoveries. That's where we are at, but having said that, suspect books could and SHOULD be viable for all audiences, especially battle-worn Ripperologists. Like Evans and Gainey's book, it contained a lot of new information that Ripperphiles could sink their teeth into whether or not they bought Tumblety as the Ripper. Having a plausible suspect doesn't hurt either.

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...more books have been written about Jack the Ripper than ALL of the President's of the United States COMBINED!
Yeah, Tom's right. Several hundred books have been written about Lincoln alone. The History Channel made a mistake.
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According to the television program "The Most" on the History Channel more books have been written about Jack the Ripper than ALL of the President's of the United States COMBINED! At first I doubted this statistic, but after thinking about it for awhile I think it is absolutely true...
As someone who has collected both US presidential biographies and Jack the Ripper non-fiction, I can confirm that is absolutely not true - not even close! I barely scratched the surface on presidential biographies by the time I had to give it up, for sheer lack of storage space. The whole of Jack the Ripper non-fiction takes up about one good-sized wall. The full gamut of presidential biographies would fill an entire house several times over.
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As someone who has collected both US presidential biographies and Jack the Ripper non-fiction, I can confirm that is absolutely not true - not even close! I barely scratched the surface on presidential biographies by the time I had to give it up, for sheer lack of storage space. The whole of Jack the Ripper non-fiction takes up about one good-sized wall. The full gamut of presidential biographies would fill an entire house several times over.
Hi Spry

I assume you are including JFK assassination books which I am sure take up quite a number of good size walls.

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Hmmmm. Read this. Got marginally cross with anomalies like, Barnett left MJ on 30 October, 'Walter' used a prostitute exclusively for a week leaving her 25 Shillings in arrears with her rent [what, he didn't pay her at all?], Barnett had been gone for over a month.' Over a month at what point??? At the point three weeks after MJ was murdered? That's dodgy research and even dodgier subbing, imo.

Yes, it might be interesting to some readers. But there is no more a case there (Mary Davis?? Not many of them in London at some point in the 1880s!!) than there would be if one were to suggest the Marquis de Sade acted out everything he wrote about. Or anyone else, for that matter. Honestly. Pick a fiction writer, and most of us have gone places in our work that we have never been in our lives. Lots of writers like shock value. Tenuous connections don't really wash much.

However, I was interested in the psychologies, or psychosexual proclivities, of men at the time. Puts a nice bit of detail onto things. And I agree with the author that there may have been but few men who had similar psychological make-ups, although this doesn't necessarily pertain. But does it solve the JtR crimes? Nup. Sorry. Nice cover, though. Reminded me, as it was surely intended, of the Suspicions of Mr. Whicher cover. Unfortunately is even more speculative than that book.
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I'm not sure I would call 'The Suspicions of Mr. Whicher' speculative, unless you're impossible to please.

As for Monaghan's book, I'm still early on in my reading (pg 75), but so far it's better than 90% of the suspect books that have ever been written on a non-contemporaneously alleged suspect.

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Its being 'better' is a scant recommendation, surely. And as for the speculative bit of The Suspicions, well, even the author admits that it is a speculative book (given away by the title itself, in part). I'm far from being impossible to please; in fact, being of tiny mind, tiny things please me. But if warping the facts to suit is enough to link a fiction/memoir writer to a series of murders, then it's hard to see how any book can fail.
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Constance Kent was clearly guilty, although it's possible she acted along with her brother. Regarding 'Secret Confession', I'm reserving complete judgement until I've finished the book, but I've been impressed so far. Monaghan referenced a report regarding the Tabram murder that I've scarcely seen mentioned by other researchers and that rather impressed me. Also, a good deal of My Secret Life is probably not fiction while some of it certainly is.

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Hi Tom...true enough. I think it was just in the final couple of chapters of Secret Confession that things started to unravel a little for me, mainly due to a few mistakes or misreadings on the author's part. But, yep, at least it's not utterly mad. My personal prejudices about it all probably weigh in a bit on my reading, too, of course
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Constance Kent was clearly guilty, although it's possible she acted along with her brother. Regarding 'Secret Confession', I'm reserving complete judgement until I've finished the book, but I've been impressed so far. Monaghan referenced a report regarding the Tabram murder that I've scarcely seen mentioned by other researchers and that rather impressed me. Also, a good deal of My Secret Life is probably not fiction while some of it certainly is.

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Tom,
thanks for giving the book a chance. Jack The Ripper's Secret Confession is a pretty tough read and is meant to be. It's tells two colliding narratives - the arrival of a new era of sexual control with the Criminal Amendment Act of 1885 raising the age of consent to 16 years, and the the psychological signs of the unravelling of Walter that point to him as the Ripper. Reading Walter's My Secret Life is a horror show. Not only is it badly and confusingly written (sometimes purposely so), the deep meaning of the need to psychopathically control and hurt women is deeply unpleasant. I've put together a short primer of the points raised to guide debate. You may food for thought.

Jack
The Ripper's Secret Confession
30 points to Walter, author of "My Secret Life"
as Jack the Ripper
Geographic profile, links to crime scene
evidence, motive, means, claimed connection to
victims and, primarily, a unique and extreme violent
fetish pattern make Walter as Jack the Ripper.

1) Walter uses “low whores”
in East London during bouts of poverty. He hates himself for
doing so.
2) Walter is a violent sexual
sadist.
3) Walter is a blood fetishist.
He describes causing bloodshed of 20 women and girls during
sexual acts.
4) Walter uses knives for sex
purposes, carrying blades to make peep
holes.
5) Walter sexualised slit
throats. In 1888 he likened female genitals to “the slit
throat of a dog”.
6) Walter commits his first
rape, of a servant, at 16.
7) Walter became a serial rapist
of country girls in his early 20s.8) At age 21, Walter rapes an
unconscious women later found “half murdered” in East
London.
9) In middle age, piercing
female flesh – the hymen – becomes Walter’s
obsession
10)
Walter threatens prostitutes with weapons. He wields a
poker to “smash” a dress lodger and her madam during a
row
.11)Walter is fascinated by blade-wielding rape. On hearing of a
rapist who subdued his victim by holding a razor to her
throat, he acts out the scenario on a sex partner. When he
learns another paramour had been threatened with murder by
sword during a gang raped by soldiers, he obsessively seeks
out details of the attack.
12) Walter has homicidal urges. He rapes he wife while imagining
“murdering her” after running from the police following
rough street sex,. Walter “determined to murder” the
child Pol during her rape, and tells her he will kill her.
After paying for buggery, Walter wants to kick the man he
had sex with and swears to kill anyone who learns about
it.
13) Walter knows Whitechapel. He had based
himself at the Gunmaker’s Proofhouse in Commercial Road
Aldgate for stalking women and voyeurism. This is within a
four minute escape radius of all Whitechapel murder
sites.
14) The Ripper was said to have medical
knowledge. Walter bys medical books and repeatedly pretends
to be a doctor. He studies female sex organs, sketching
internal genitalia with a surgeon who had “dissected
virgins”. He acts as a surgery assistant in live
examination of two women.
15) Walter developed a fetish for having prostitutes directly
after they had been serviced during street sex. His practice
is to shadow women to places of assignation
unseen
.16) Walter associated pursuing street prostitutes with
bloodsports, wearing a hunting outfit to trawl for sex in
Dundee. He describes being sexual aroused while out killing
Game
.17) Walter disguised his identity while pursuing prostitutes in
Tower Hill, dressing as a sailor and in working man’s cap.
Men wearing similar clothes were seen on the night of the
murder of Stride and Eddowes
.18) Martha Tabram is killed in a George’s Yard stairwell.
Walter describes stalking a short, “hook nosed” older
prostitute, who he previously threatened “to smash”, to
a secluded spot in order to frighten her.
19) Mary Ann Nichols was found with an unexplained bonnet.
Walter details his tactics of giving bonnets as sexual
inducements.
20) Mary Ann Nichols had a clean white handkerchief, and Liz
Stride had two handkerchiefs. Walter would offer
handkerchiefs as payment to destitute
prostitutes
21) The Ripper used a scarf worn by Liz Stride to align the cutting
of her throat. Walter used scarves as sexual presents,
positioning them on women’s neck as a lever for sexual
groping.
22) Annie Chapman carried pills at her death provided apparently
by an unknown doctor. Walter’s pretended to be a doctor,
and had a prostitute use pills to subdue the virgin Emma,
who he wished to rape.
23) Ripper victim Mary Jane Kelly and Walter’s prostitute
lover Mary Davis, share the same name. Mary Davies (or
Davis) was Mary Jane Kelly’s married name, under which she
was buried. Both Mary’s were Irish. Both lived in
single, ground floor rooms where they serviced clients,
entered by long corridors. Both rooms were in the East End.
Both Mary’s paid rent to a married couple who lived in the
same building. Both were behind in their rent, one 25
shillings, to other 29 shillings. Both were thought
attractive enough to be able to have worked in the West End.
Mary Davis refused to provide a child for sex to Walter.
Walter then hears that she has “died”.
24) Mary Jane Kelly was found murdered some reports said the
door appeared to be locked and the key missing. Walter
describes his tactics as a key stealer, taking keys to keep
raped victims locked in.
25) Walter links himself to a murdered
women’s corpse found on the Thames in 1889, postulating
she is Sarah Mavis, a prostitute who spurned him after
extracting a large loan. He describes her identifying
features as a star-shaped mark underneath her breast.
The corpse found on the Thames had two ribs below the breast
cut away, obliterating where Walter’s identifying mark
would have been.
26) Walter suffered “defloration mania”, the virgin breaking
sex craze of the 19th century. In 1886, psychiatrist
Krafft-Ebing linked defloration mania to a specific type of
female mutilation murders that involve stabbing at the lower
abdomen and removal of body parts: the marks of the
Ripper.
27) Walter feared being blackmailed by those
who knew of his sex life. He had been subject to anonymous
letters to his wife. He said he would kill a woman if his
long term relationship was threatened.
28) Walter suffers from “brain whirls” -
memory lapse - during rage and extreme sex. These are
symptoms of homicidal epilepsy, noted at the time as
possible driver for the Ripper’s murders.
29) Women out to expose the child sex trade in Whitechapel for
targets for murder. A letter by Josephine Butler in 1885
says Rebecca Jarrett, a prostitute living in the Hanbury
Street who had revealed the child sex trade, was pursued by
“four brutal brothel keepers” out to kill her.
This specific motive for terror murder of Whitechapel
prostitutes, recorded shortly before the Ripper killings, is
ignored. The Attorney General orders Rebecca Jarrett herself
prosecuted for buying a child as part of a newspaper expose
on the child sex trade.
30) Walter’s privately printed sex memoir My Secret Life is
dated 1888, the year of the Ripper killings. He says it as a
contribution to psychology for a sexual aberration he cannot
understand. Walter speaks of 80 pages of diary entries -
worse that the rapes, child abuse and sex crimes he includes
- that are "consigned to the flames”.

David Monaghan
Author
My Secret Life
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