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  • #16
    Originally posted by Chris View Post
    In the 1889 Booth Map, about three-quarters of Flower and Dean Street is marked as black ("Lowest class. Vicious, semi-criminal"), whereas Fashion Street is pink (three levels higher: "Mixed. Some comfortable, others poor").
    Though curiously Chris, there's a black or dark blue area set back from the road (overlooking the churchyard) which could only be accessed via an alleyway. Anybody got a Goad Map?

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Monty View Post
      Guys



      This is a segment of a report about Eddowes


      Irish Times Monday, 1st October 1888

      The public were not admitted to the square until late in the afternoon, after an official plan of the square had been made for production at the inquest. Up to a late hour in the evening the woman had not been identified, although several people have been to the Bishopsgate street police station and have seen the clothing. Two women who inspected this and also saw the corpse were certain that it was the body of a woman named Jane Kelly, but subsequently on inquiries being made, it was found that this individual was alive. A man who saw the body said he was sure it was that of a woman known as "Phoebe the Jewess," but the inquiries in this case are not yet complete
      .

      Also, Stride was alleged to have been a Charwoman to some Jews.

      Just throwing it out there...a connection?

      Monty
      Maybe. Here's the Soup kitchen marked on Goads.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Monty View Post
        Guys



        This is a segment of a report about Eddowes


        Irish Times Monday, 1st October 1888

        The public were not admitted to the square until late in the afternoon, after an official plan of the square had been made for production at the inquest. Up to a late hour in the evening the woman had not been identified, although several people have been to the Bishopsgate street police station and have seen the clothing. Two women who inspected this and also saw the corpse were certain that it was the body of a woman named Jane Kelly, but subsequently on inquiries being made, it was found that this individual was alive. A man who saw the body said he was sure it was that of a woman known as "Phoebe the Jewess," but the inquiries in this case are not yet complete
        .

        Also, Stride was alleged to have been a Charwoman to some Jews.

        Just throwing it out there...a connection?

        Monty
        Hello Neil,

        Is there a follow up article on that name in the next edition? Or 2nd Oct for example?

        best wishes

        Phil
        Chelsea FC. TRUE BLUE. 💙


        Justice for the 96 = achieved
        Accountability? ....

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        • #19
          Phoebe sounds a bit of a handful!

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Monty View Post
            [I]Irish Times Monday, 1st October 1888

            Two women who inspected this and also saw the corpse were certain that it was the body of a woman named Jane Kelly, but subsequently on inquiries being made, it was found that this individual was alive

            Monty
            Seems interesting that in her last 24 hours alive, Eddowes had actually used the name "Jane Kelly" as her own name when pawning boots.

            curious

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            • #21
              curious,

              She gave the name Mary Ann Kelly at the police station.

              best wishes

              Phil
              Chelsea FC. TRUE BLUE. 💙


              Justice for the 96 = achieved
              Accountability? ....

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              • #22
                Hi John

                Didnt have my trusty tripod that day, if I remember correctly I walked off the tube and left it to travel on it's own. A freind of mine will be in the area tomorrow, and i've just texted him to check the 10 foot to the mile OS map for 6 Fashion street.

                all the best

                Observer

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Stephen Thomas View Post
                  Though curiously Chris, there's a black or dark blue area set back from the road (overlooking the churchyard) which could only be accessed via an alleyway. Anybody got a Goad Map?
                  It's marked as Union Court on the 1873 O.S. map. It was a row of houses behind those on the north side of Fashion Street, with an alleyway running between the two, apparently with a covered entrance from Fashion Street at each end.

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                  • #24
                    Number 6 is roughly where the first lamp post on the right is.

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                    • #25
                      Hi Rob

                      Thats a clearer photograph of Fashion Street. Also you're correct in stating that 6 Fashion Street was once a chandlers shop, in 1891 Mark Silverman was the shop keeper. The Vast majority of the Street was occupied by Eastern European immigrants, including Aaron, and Anne Barnett in number 2 they were Russian nationals, hailing from Vilmar. No relation to Joseph I suspect.

                      all the best

                      Observer

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                      • #26
                        Two more of Fashion Street looking West from the Brick Lane end

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                        • #27
                          Hello Observer,

                          Thank you. No.6 would be on the left in the bottom picture near the last car near the end. Correct?

                          best wishes

                          Phil
                          Chelsea FC. TRUE BLUE. 💙


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                          • #28
                            Hi Phil

                            Yes that's correct.

                            all the best

                            Observer

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                            • #29
                              Was just looking for details on the ornate terrace on the south side of Fashion Street which I remember was a failed business venture and came across the Wikipedia entry on Spitalfields which folks here may find interesting.

                              allisvanityandvexationofspirit

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                              • #30
                                donors

                                Hello All. The following is a list of donors to the soup kitchen at 5 (sic) Fashion st Spitalfields. It is taken from The Jewish Standard, January 4, 1889.

                                Perhaps Kate had eaten there by convincing them that she was Jewish?

                                Cheers.
                                LC
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