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  • Originally posted by Svensson View Post
    Nothing truly, completely does IMO. This is where the Aussies got it right: Compulsory voting with the final option of "None of the above" if you really can't be arsed about who runs the country.
    Like it makes a difference?

    What we call "democracy" is nothing but a sideshow. It just creates the false impression of agency. Clinton or Trump... It doesn't make a difference who's voted into office, because you can be sure as heck they never would've been allowed to step one foot into the White House without the ruling elite's blessing.

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    • Originally posted by Harry D View Post
      Like it makes a difference?

      What we call "democracy" is nothing but a sideshow. It just creates the false impression of agency. Clinton or Trump... It doesn't make a difference who's voted into office, because you can be sure as heck they never would've been allowed to step one foot into the White House without the ruling elite's blessing.
      Hi, Harry D.,

      I'm dubious of the "ruling elite" concept, but I do believe it is important to vote as if it does make a difference. I think the Republicans wanted Jeb Bush as their candidate, and settled for Donald Trump with the idea that either he'd change if elected, or would not win at all

      Now we do have a ruler from the "elite", if you consider money a qualification.
      Pat D. https://forum.casebook.org/core/imag...rt/reading.gif
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      • Originally posted by Pcdunn View Post
        Hi, Harry D.,

        I'm dubious of the "ruling elite" concept, but I do believe it is important to vote as if it does make a difference. I think the Republicans wanted Jeb Bush as their candidate, and settled for Donald Trump with the idea that either he'd change if elected, or would not win at all

        Now we do have a ruler from the "elite", if you consider money a qualification.
        It's the plutocrats and oligarchs who run the world. It doesn't matter which puppet you vote for.

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        • Originally posted by Harry D View Post
          It's the plutocrats and oligarchs who run the world. It doesn't matter which puppet you vote for.
          Some puppets suit the oligarchs' purposes better than others. "Those whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad"... so, if you're a nutjob to begin with, it makes the gods' jobs much easier.
          Last edited by Sam Flynn; 07-31-2017, 08:58 AM.
          Kind regards, Sam Flynn

          "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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          • Scarramuchi has gone.

            Trump is the gift that just keeps on giving.

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            • Originally posted by barnflatwyngarde View Post
              Scarramuchi has gone. Trump is the gift that just keeps on giving.
              Jeez! Trump makes Nero look like Gladstone.
              Kind regards, Sam Flynn

              "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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              • Originally posted by Sam Flynn View Post
                Jeez! Trump makes Nero look like Gladstone.
                I'm going to buy him a fiddle.

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                • Originally posted by barnflatwyngarde View Post
                  I'm going to buy him a fiddle.
                  A fiddle would suit him, given his propensity for giving things the elbow
                  Kind regards, Sam Flynn

                  "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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                  • Originally posted by barnflatwyngarde View Post
                    Scarramuchi has gone.

                    Trump is the gift that just keeps on giving.
                    hi, Barn,
                    it was Trump's new Chief of Staff, military man John Kelly, who ordered the Mooch's departure-- proving that at least someone on the President's staff has smarts.
                    Pat D. https://forum.casebook.org/core/imag...rt/reading.gif
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                    • Originally posted by Sam Flynn View Post
                      Some puppets suit the oligarchs' purposes better than others. "Those whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad"... so, if you're a nutjob to begin with, it makes the gods' jobs much easier.
                      Maybe they do, Sam, but the end result is the same.

                      Trump isn't what's wrong with America. "Capitalist democracy" which only exists to serve the interests of the rich and powerful - that's what's wrong with America, and the rest of the Western world.

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                      • Cool. Long live Communist Dictatorship then

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                        • Originally posted by Svensson View Post
                          Cool. Long live Communist Dictatorship then
                          Meritocratic social capitalism would be my preferred successor.

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                          • Originally posted by Harry D View Post
                            Meritocratic social capitalism would be my preferred successor.
                            I'm with you there, Harry. Sadly, it looks like we're stuck with a toxic mediocracy for the foreseeable future... in Britain and America.
                            Kind regards, Sam Flynn

                            "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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                            • Originally posted by Harry D View Post
                              Meritocratic social capitalism would be my preferred successor.
                              Ah, now you're REALLY dreaming

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                              • Originally posted by Svensson View Post
                                Ah, now you're REALLY dreaming
                                People once dreamt of putting a man on the moon.

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