An experiment

[Abby Normal]

Hi Abby,

No, that idea has never struck me. Why should it be about police?

The word does not contain any p, o, l, i or c.

Kind regards, Pierre

Darn it! Well It should have struck you because it's a dam fine idea!

Ok. Well everyone keeps mentioning dictionary, so if you tried to look up Juwes you won't find it. The closest word to it is juvenile.

So therefore it reads:
The juveniles are the men who will not be blamed for nothing.

Am I getting close?

[Elamarna]

The other ones I get for "juwes" are:

Dues
juice
dukes
jewels
juries
blues


Craig

Craig

the point from Pierre’s post to me was that the misspelled words did not have to have the same number of letters as the correct versions, but all had the same first letter.
therefore the word could be anything starting with J

[Abby Normal]

Hi all
Those are some good ideas. I especially like David's Jutes! LOL!


Pierre
If none of our ideas are correct, please don't tell me your going the way of that old donston idea that Juwes is a misspelling, or a misreading (like you said in a recent post) of juives?

[Errata]

Craig

the point from Pierre’s post to me was that the misspelled words did not have to have the same number of letters as the correct versions, but all had the same first letter.
therefore the word could be anything starting with J

That looks roughly like this

[Bridewell]

With all due respect to Bridewell, the logic of that statement escapes me.

Superintendent Arnold and Sir Charles Warren explained their decision to remove the message to the Home Office. It had nothing to do with an alleged nickname attributed to the City Police.

Just for the record, it's not my logic. The quotation is from Paul Harrison's book, so the words (and logic) of the statement are his, not mine. I've not seen anywhere else that Juwes/Jewes/Jewries was a nickname the Met had for their City counterparts, but that doesn't mean it wasn't so at one time - or that it was.

[c.d.]

Catherine Eddowes was killed next to an orange market. Joseph Barnett at the inquest claimed to be working as a fruit porter. So maybe it's "the juice" are not the men...

I think people are getting carried away here. Seems to be very reminiscent of the book "The Bible Code" which claimed that there were secret messages in the Bible. But then it was shown that if you looked hard enough you could find similar messages in "Moby Dick." I think the same principle is at work here. Put out enough possibilities and one of them is bound to make some sort of sense.

c.d.

[Elamarna]

agreed

[Bridewell]

I've just put Juwes into Google translate and it 'detected' it as being Afrikaans (pronounced yoovuss) but offered no translation. Juwe comes up as a Yoruba word meaning 'prescribe' ???????????

[Bridewell]

Catherine Eddowes was killed next to an orange market. Joseph Barnett at the inquest claimed to be working as a fruit porter. So maybe it's "the juice" are not the men...

I think people are getting carried away here. Seems to be very reminiscent of the book "The Bible Code" which claimed that there were secret messages in the Bible. But then it was shown that if you looked hard enough you could find similar messages in "Moby Dick." I think the same principle is at work here. Put out enough possibilities and one of them is bound to make some sort of sense.

c.d.

That's certainly fair comment but it does no harm to consider the alternatives, just in case the assumption that Jews are being referred to proves mistaken (however unlikely that may be).

[c.d.]

That's certainly fair comment but it does no harm to consider the alternatives, just in case the assumption that Jews are being referred to proves mistaken (however unlikely that may be).

Hello Bridewell,

Yes, agree with you that it does no harm. But even if we do find something that seems that it could be a real possibility, we still have no way of knowing if that is what the author meant. And unfortunately there is always the possibility that he was simply a piss poor speller.

c.d.

[DJA]

I've just put Juwes into Google translate and it 'detected' it as being Afrikaans (pronounced yoovuss) but offered no translation. Juwe comes up as a Yoruba word meaning 'prescribe' ???????????

Afrikaans evolved from the Dutch language and was spoken by most South Africans.

Guess who served there before becoming head of the Met Police?

Hint,he had the GSG removed

[Shaggyrand]

David

I missed that one.

could be any i suggested or how about
jupes

Several articles of clothing are called jupe:
In modern English, jupe usually refers to a style of skirt.
Jupe (jacket) or jupe panels also refers to a style of jacket.
Jupe, in Central European hip hop fashion refers to baggy pants (trousers).

men in a certain style of clothing?

Catherine Eddowes was killed next to an orange market. Joseph Barnett at the inquest claimed to be working as a fruit porter. So maybe it's "the juice" are not the men...

c.d.

Ah... Now what if I tell you that in some places "Jupe" and "Joop" has been used as a diminutive and alternate for "Joseph"? I think that's it! Joey "The Juice" Barnett was signing his work.

Yeah... I don't buy it, or the GSG honestly, either.

[Pcdunn]

ok
however if we do not know how many letters are in the word the options are very large indeed.

if we for sake of argument look at 5 letter words we could have:

Johns
Jakes
or Jacks.

however i see no resaon to assume any such change of spelling is justified

regards

Judas! A five-letter proper name with a wealth of symbology behind it, as well as beginning with "Ju" and ending in "s".

[Craig H]

Hi Pat

Great pick up ! Well done !

Craig

[Pierre]

It's so easy.

The Jutes are the men who will not be blamed for nothing.

Jute n. member of Low German tribe that settled in Britain in 5th-6th c.

Thanks Pierre, you've led me to the solution. We are looking to blame a German or a Dane (for nothing).

Hi David,

Is it plausible that Jack the Ripper knew about the "jutes" and had any interest in them?

After the analysis of data we always interpret the data.

What would you, as a sociologist, say about it; do you see a plausible reason to think that the "jutes" is in the interest of the killer?

Regards, Pierre