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Forum: Rippercast 04-17-2018, 12:46 PM
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I think that it would be ridiculous to credit...

I think that it would be ridiculous to credit individual newspaper and census entries posted to the boards. There is no way of knowing who found something first when anyone can access the material....
Forum: Motive, Method and Madness 04-17-2018, 06:07 AM
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Posted By Debra A
Hi Abby Including Hebbert who is probably one of...

Hi Abby
Including Hebbert who is probably one of the only people actually involved to have made a direct comparison:

"During the years 1887-1889, a series of murders was committed in London, by...
Forum: Motive, Method and Madness 04-16-2018, 05:37 AM
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Just a quick one to say that what Hebbert...

Just a quick one to say that what Hebbert actually mentioned in regard to doctors was that doctors weren't continually cutting through joints to remove limbs (they used other methods for limb...
Forum: Motive, Method and Madness 04-16-2018, 05:06 AM
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Thanks Trevor I appreciate what Dr Biggs has to...

Thanks Trevor
I appreciate what Dr Biggs has to say but I would also remind you of what G N Rutty wrote:


"Anatomical Sites of Dismemberment

From the authors' experience, it is unusual for the...
Forum: Motive, Method and Madness 04-16-2018, 04:57 AM
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Sam, I think it is also worth considering that...

Sam, I think it is also worth considering that Hebbert lived in those times and would probably be well aware of the skills of the general population. I wonder why he would comment on it as a...
Forum: Motive, Method and Madness 04-15-2018, 10:50 PM
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Posted By Debra A
Hi Jerry More specifically, Hebbert thought the...

Hi Jerry
More specifically, Hebbert thought the similarity in cutting the skin around the joints with a knife, exposing the joint and then opening it to remove the limb linked the four cases 87 to 89...
Forum: Rippercast 04-15-2018, 09:16 AM
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It was a very interesting subject you broached,...

It was a very interesting subject you broached, Jonathon and I'm very glad you asked the question because I have often wondered about how other researchers feel about authors using the research they...
Forum: Rippercast 04-15-2018, 04:44 AM
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Thanks for another interesting podcast, Jonathon...

Thanks for another interesting podcast, Jonathon and to everyone involved.
I was particularly interested in the discussion about whether it was right or not to take research shared on a message board...
Forum: Scene of the Crimes 04-11-2018, 12:23 PM
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Posted By Debra A
Nice to see all the work here too, Jerry.

Nice to see all the work here too, Jerry.
Forum: Motive, Method and Madness 04-07-2018, 07:56 AM
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Posted By Debra A
...Or I could have been deliberately sent here to...

...Or I could have been deliberately sent here to kill the thread off. :)
In days past all it took was to mention Mary Jane Kelly's pubic hair. Scott will tell you.
Forum: Motive, Method and Madness 04-07-2018, 07:31 AM
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Posted By Debra A
I'm actually serious, Christer. :) I think a...

I'm actually serious, Christer. :)
I think a theory on the the death of Elizabeth Jackson that is based around the framework of genuine victims of Victorian morality, illegitimacy, criminal abortion,...
Forum: Motive, Method and Madness 04-07-2018, 06:35 AM
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Posted By Debra A
The theory would serve as a good vehicle to...

The theory would serve as a good vehicle to remember Elizabeth's human qualities and her life story within a backdrop of illegitimacy, abortion, infanticide and the seldom mentioned brutality that...
Forum: Motive, Method and Madness 04-07-2018, 03:09 AM
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Posted By Debra A
Speaking as someone willing also to consider that...

Speaking as someone willing also to consider that dismemberment in Elizabeth Jackson's case ( if considered in isolation and ignoring Hebbert's opinion that the torsos were series) may have been...
Forum: Motive, Method and Madness 04-06-2018, 03:29 PM
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Posted By Debra A
She had been in a relationship with John...

She had been in a relationship with John Faircloth since before November 1888 he was released from prison in 1887 for deserting the Grenadier Guards for 7 years. He had contracted syphilis whilst...
Forum: Motive, Method and Madness 04-06-2018, 09:13 AM
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Posted By Debra A
Thanks for re-posting Dr Biggs opinions,...

Thanks for re-posting Dr Biggs opinions, Trevor.

I am a little puzzled by Dr Biggs last sentence of the Kelly/Jackson 'flap' comparison where he says it is impossible to tell if there is a link and...
Forum: Motive, Method and Madness 04-05-2018, 11:49 PM
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Posted By Debra A
Just call them the torso cases like I do. I...

Just call them the torso cases like I do.

I think progress has been made in some respects in that now the debate has moved on from denying the taking of flesh from of Elizabeth's abdomen and removal...
Forum: Motive, Method and Madness 04-05-2018, 11:11 AM
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Posted By Debra A
Here are the descriptions from the inquest...

Here are the descriptions from the inquest reporting:

Wapping inquest:

Oxford Times 08 June 1889
The Press Association, in a telegram on Tuesday says the remains found at Horsleydown consisted of...
Forum: Motive, Method and Madness 04-05-2018, 07:06 AM
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Posted By Debra A
Thanks for the explanation, Steve, Yes, that was...

Thanks for the explanation, Steve,

Yes, that was my opinion- that I thought it would be unlikely that two supposed long thin strips of flesh ,as 'slips' is being interpreted, would be described as...
Forum: Motive, Method and Madness 04-05-2018, 02:48 AM
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Posted By Debra A
Thank you, Gareth. At last. :)

Thank you, Gareth. At last. :)
Forum: Motive, Method and Madness 04-05-2018, 02:40 AM
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Posted By Debra A
You misunderstand what Bond meant,...

You misunderstand what Bond meant, Trevor.
Abortion then, as now, does not involve the opening of the abdomen or uterus with a knife or scalpel. Abortion is the expelling of the contents of the...
Forum: Motive, Method and Madness 04-05-2018, 12:28 AM
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Posted By Debra A
Well yes, Gareth. Does this mean that you agree...

Well yes, Gareth. Does this mean that you agree that the uterus was removed now?
Forum: Motive, Method and Madness 04-05-2018, 12:25 AM
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Posted By Debra A
Thanks Robert, It's almost like he didn't know...

Thanks Robert,
It's almost like he didn't know where exactly he wanted to stop cutting. Yes, Elizabeth's legs might have been similarly open during this cutting.
I think I agree with Josh about the...
Forum: Motive, Method and Madness 04-05-2018, 12:05 AM
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Posted By Debra A
The empty uterus complete with appendages,...

The empty uterus complete with appendages, placenta and cord, and two flaps of skin and subcutaneous tissue (I read this as the skin including its underlying subcutaneous tissue, from the abdomen)...
Forum: Motive, Method and Madness 04-04-2018, 11:34 PM
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Posted By Debra A
Thanks JR And also, I wonder why the left wall...

Thanks JR
And also, I wonder why the left wall was accessed to remove the foetus if it was done while the uterus was inside the body? Unless the axis of the pregnant uterus in the pelvis only...
Forum: Motive, Method and Madness 04-04-2018, 11:19 PM
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Posted By Debra A
Thanks Abby. I wasn't sure. The punctuation...

Thanks Abby. I wasn't sure. The punctuation didn't give any clues for me.
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