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Forum: Motive, Method and Madness Yesterday, 07:24 AM
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Indeed, but there's no excuse for a serious book...

Indeed, but there's no excuse for a serious book written in 2002 not to cite its sources, if that's what happened.
Forum: Motive, Method and Madness Yesterday, 07:17 AM
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Early forerunner? Gordon's book was only...

Early forerunner? Gordon's book was only published 15 years ago.
Forum: Motive, Method and Madness Yesterday, 07:13 AM
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Posted By Sam Flynn
Debs, Fish The statements needn't be mutually...

Debs, Fish

The statements needn't be mutually exclusive. The arm might have been sawn through (e.g. at the elbow and/or forearm) AND the remainder wrenched out at the shoulder. Like your lamb joint,...
Forum: Motive, Method and Madness Yesterday, 06:09 AM
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Posted By Sam Flynn
I once bought a book about torso murders. It cost...

I once bought a book about torso murders. It cost me an arm and a leg.
Forum: Motive, Method and Madness 10-15-2017, 11:27 AM
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Posted By Sam Flynn
From a dispassionate perspective, what we appear...

From a dispassionate perspective, what we appear to have is a number of murders in which the perpetrator(s) want to get shot of the bodies, and the manner in which they do so is neither without...
Forum: Motive, Method and Madness 10-15-2017, 11:21 AM
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Posted By Sam Flynn
All the TKs needed - probably two, possibly more,...

All the TKs needed - probably two, possibly more, but not one - was a quick look to make sure the coast was clear, then they were good to go. Even today, you could probably walk along the Thames...
Forum: Motive, Method and Madness 10-15-2017, 10:44 AM
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Posted By Sam Flynn
Indeed, and I don't believe that the Ripper's...

Indeed, and I don't believe that the Ripper's victims could have been traced back to him. The Ripper's biggest challenge was to avoid being caught in the act of murder, which was a very real danger...
Forum: Martha Tabram 10-15-2017, 10:33 AM
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Posted By Sam Flynn
A 3" cut is actually rather small - about...

A 3" cut is actually rather small - about the length of my index finger, and I'm not particularly "long-fingered". It could conceivably have been a stab that slipped, but that's just conjecture on my...
Forum: Martha Tabram 10-15-2017, 09:52 AM
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Posted By Sam Flynn
Just on this point, I make it that the named...

Just on this point, I make it that the named wounds account for a total of 30:

Throat 9
Left Lung 5
Right Lung 2
Heart 1
Liver 5
Spleen 2
Stomach 6
Forum: Martha Tabram 10-15-2017, 09:36 AM
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Posted By Sam Flynn
True enough, John. But all it amounted to was an...

True enough, John. But all it amounted to was an isolated stab wound here and there, plausibly accidental, and none of them inflicted on the chest, throat or upper abdomen. A world away from what...
Forum: Martha Tabram 10-15-2017, 08:49 AM
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Posted By Sam Flynn
Not if the slices concerned swiftly sever all the...

Not if the slices concerned swiftly sever all the blood vessels in the neck. And, in the canonicals and non-canonicals alike, we see none of the kinds of stab wounds inflicted on Tabram, if we see...
Forum: Martha Tabram 10-15-2017, 08:16 AM
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Posted By Sam Flynn
I'd stop there, personally. There were two deep...

I'd stop there, personally. There were two deep throat cuts, and they were pretty decisive, and the abdominal cuts were long and severe. In neither case was there any hint that yer man was trying...
Forum: Motive, Method and Madness 10-15-2017, 08:10 AM
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Posted By Sam Flynn
I'm not missing out on anything. I don't see a...

I'm not missing out on anything. I don't see a "dismemberment paraphilia" at work here, not in the slightest. Most of the body parts were dropped into the Thames, and that's a big clue. Go figure.And...
Forum: Motive, Method and Madness 10-15-2017, 07:13 AM
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Posted By Sam Flynn
If a body has been cut up and the parts scattered...

If a body has been cut up and the parts scattered over a wide area, with the majority being thrown into a river, then whoever did the cutting did so with the intention of making it easier to...
Forum: Martha Tabram 10-15-2017, 07:05 AM
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Posted By Sam Flynn
Then we hit the same problem - and to my mind,...

Then we hit the same problem - and to my mind, the big problem - of the dramatic change from multiple stabs to throat-cutting, the cutting open of the abdomen and the removal of organs.
Forum: Motive, Method and Madness 10-15-2017, 05:21 AM
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Posted By Sam Flynn
Possibly, but not necessarily. Why take any...

Possibly, but not necessarily. Why take any chances? Why help the police in any way?

Like I said, however, there was more than one benefit to disposing of the bodies in this way. It wasn't just...
Forum: Motive, Method and Madness 10-15-2017, 04:19 AM
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Posted By Sam Flynn
Don't get me wrong - I firmly believe that...

Don't get me wrong - I firmly believe that anonymisation was one of the things that the torso dumper was aiming at, but (a) I can't say for certain; and (b) I don't think it was the only benefit...
Forum: Motive, Method and Madness 10-15-2017, 03:53 AM
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Posted By Sam Flynn
Then why didn't he leave the bodies intact? Just...

Then why didn't he leave the bodies intact?

Just to be clear, I'm not saying that he - or any other torso killer - wanted the victim to be permanently unidentifiable, only that by chopping the...
Forum: Martha Tabram 10-15-2017, 01:22 AM
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Posted By Sam Flynn
The point is that, even at this level of...

The point is that, even at this level of granularity, there are fundamental differences between what happened to Tabram and what happened to ALL the others, whether canonical or not.
Forum: Motive, Method and Madness 10-15-2017, 01:20 AM
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Posted By Sam Flynn
Indeed, but why should he have done so...

Indeed, but why should he have done so necessarily? Kill, dismember, scatter, dump - job done. At least the body wasn't lying around in the killer's house, garden shed or whatever.
Indeed, first...
Forum: Motive, Method and Madness 10-15-2017, 12:29 AM
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Posted By Sam Flynn
On the contrary, it shows that the police got...

On the contrary, it shows that the police got lucky in only one out of a number of instances, and that the body dumpers did a pretty good job of anonymising their victims.

Had it not been for the...
Forum: Motive, Method and Madness 10-14-2017, 04:11 PM
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Posted By Sam Flynn
What? And risk detection?Spot on. So the cutting...

What? And risk detection?Spot on. So the cutting up of the body has more to do with the practicalities of scattering it, than with any desire to create a "floating horror-show".
It has to do with...
Forum: Motive, Method and Madness 10-14-2017, 01:22 PM
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Posted By Sam Flynn
Which is easier to carry and scatter? An intact...

Which is easier to carry and scatter? An intact body or one cut up in pieces?
Forum: Motive, Method and Madness 10-14-2017, 01:15 PM
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Posted By Sam Flynn
Every other torso murderer in history has...

Every other torso murderer in history has probably done exactly the same sorts of things. Nothing special about the 1873 killer or the other(s) for that matter.
Forum: Motive, Method and Madness 10-14-2017, 12:35 PM
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Posted By Sam Flynn
Ressler I respect, but there are too many amateur...

Ressler I respect, but there are too many amateur (and professional) dabblers out there.
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