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Forum: General Police Discussion 08-06-2017, 12:46 PM
Replies: 368
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Posted By Flower and Dean
I agree with people who have said leaving one's...

I agree with people who have said leaving one's beat would have been allowed in case of emergency. That sounds like part of the purpose, not just to watch for trouble but to be easy to find by people...
Forum: Mary Jane Kelly 08-06-2017, 12:29 PM
Replies: 46
Views: 8,524
Posted By Flower and Dean
Wickerman, I agree with almost everything you've...

Wickerman, I agree with almost everything you've said in your post. I find it hard to imagine that Kelly would barricade the door if she wasn't alone.



I don't know if the table would have blocked...
Forum: Mary Jane Kelly 08-05-2017, 12:31 PM
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Posted By Flower and Dean
I didn't say it had. My post that you're quoting...

I didn't say it had. My post that you're quoting is about the off-topic conversation going on. I don't want to get involved so I'm sorry if I should have ellaborated more, but I think it's obvious...
Forum: Mary Jane Kelly 08-04-2017, 08:27 PM
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Views: 8,524
Posted By Flower and Dean
I'm guessing this thread isn't really about the...

I'm guessing this thread isn't really about the gruesome murder of a young woman and is about something else I'm still missing :scratchchin:
Forum: Mary Jane Kelly 08-04-2017, 04:10 PM
Replies: 46
Views: 8,524
Posted By Flower and Dean
I'm not sure what's going on in this thread...

I'm not sure what's going on in this thread :anxious:

Asking if Kelly could have used the table to barricade the room isn't a bad question. It certainly seems possible to me. I think it was Prater...
Forum: Mary Jane Kelly 08-04-2017, 01:41 PM
Replies: 21
Views: 5,514
Posted By Flower and Dean
I tried looking for MJK's husband a while ago too...

I tried looking for MJK's husband a while ago too and found the Davies who married a Mary Jarman. I don't think that's them, even if Jarman's age would fit. Jarman doesn't seem to be an especially...
Forum: Hutchinson, George 06-07-2017, 02:34 PM
Replies: 1,197
Views: 216,652
Posted By Flower and Dean
You're contradicting yourself a bit...

You're contradicting yourself a bit here...

Lewis specifically mentions that she went to stay with Mrs. Keyler. When she talks about the suspicious man, she mentions that she was with a friend. She...
Forum: Hutchinson, George 06-06-2017, 09:43 AM
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Posted By Flower and Dean
More than one account of Kennedy's story mention...

More than one account of Kennedy's story mention that she didn't go to sleep immediately and this is why she was awake when she heard "Murder!".

It seems convenient that they were both awake at the...
Forum: Motive, Method and Madness 06-05-2017, 05:25 PM
Replies: 247
Views: 42,206
Posted By Flower and Dean
This again? Are you on a quest to populate the...

This again? Are you on a quest to populate the forum with your thoughts on the GSG, Pierre?



If this doesn't make it clear, I don't know what will.
Forum: Hutchinson, George 06-05-2017, 12:41 PM
Replies: 1,197
Views: 216,652
Posted By Flower and Dean
Wickerman, by this point I'm not sure if you're...

Wickerman, by this point I'm not sure if you're being deliberately circular or if you simply don't read what you reply to. I already gave my reasons for thinking that there could have been a mix-up....
Forum: Hutchinson, George 06-04-2017, 10:27 AM
Replies: 1,197
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Posted By Flower and Dean
So, you think it's a stretch that the reports we...

So, you think it's a stretch that the reports we have of Kennedy's story may be a mix-up, but you don't think what you're saying here is? Right...





I didn't contradict any of this. Just pointing...
Forum: Hutchinson, George 06-03-2017, 04:29 PM
Replies: 1,197
Views: 216,652
Posted By Flower and Dean
But Kennedy supposedly saw Kelly. Wouldn't that...

But Kennedy supposedly saw Kelly. Wouldn't that be of interest since it would help establish where the victim was last seen?



And yet, Kennedy is a different name from both. It's clear (from your...
Forum: Hutchinson, George 06-03-2017, 01:34 PM
Replies: 1,197
Views: 216,652
Posted By Flower and Dean
Well, I disagree. If Kennedy was reported in the...

Well, I disagree. If Kennedy was reported in the press as early as Nov. 10, then why wasn't she at the inquest? Why don't we have more information about her? I would think Kennedy would be more...
Forum: Letters and Communications 06-02-2017, 06:15 PM
Replies: 1,038
Views: 184,852
Posted By Flower and Dean
I don't know... what if the graffiti really...

I don't know... what if the graffiti really meant "jujube"? :lol:
Forum: Hutchinson, George 06-02-2017, 06:12 PM
Replies: 1,197
Views: 216,652
Posted By Flower and Dean
Where are you getting this from? Lewis (at the...

Where are you getting this from? Lewis (at the inquest, at least) doesn't say that the man and the woman she saw went indoors.



Where are you getting 2:15 as Hutchinson's implied time? Not doubting...
Forum: Hutchinson, George 06-02-2017, 06:03 PM
Replies: 1,197
Views: 216,652
Posted By Flower and Dean
Yes, I'm sure. I was talking about Lewis and Cox....

Yes, I'm sure. I was talking about Lewis and Cox.

Lewis says:



Later on she talks about the man who scared her and her friend and is asked if she's seen him again:
Forum: Hutchinson, George 06-01-2017, 02:42 PM
Replies: 1,197
Views: 216,652
Posted By Flower and Dean
There was a bit of a debate a few pages back...

There was a bit of a debate a few pages back about whether Lewis and Cox contradicted each other... not so. Mrs. Cox's testimony leaves a gap between 1 (when she last heard Kelly singing) and 3 (when...
Forum: Pub Talk 05-30-2017, 09:52 AM
Replies: 43
Views: 5,652
Posted By Flower and Dean
Some of the posts here show a very classy and not...

Some of the posts here show a very classy and not at all agenda-pushing side of people here. /sarcasm
Forum: Hutchinson, George 05-30-2017, 09:51 AM
Replies: 1,197
Views: 216,652
Posted By Flower and Dean
But that's the point, if he was lying he wouldn't...

But that's the point, if he was lying he wouldn't necessarily have needed to get the details from the weekend press. We know that the murders generated a lot of commotion and talk in the area, so...
Forum: Mary Jane Kelly 05-29-2017, 01:22 PM
Replies: 170
Views: 35,940
Posted By Flower and Dean
I think so but if the police did their job and...

I think so but if the police did their job and investigated him and ruled him out, that would put him further down the list of suspects for me. I'd assume that police at the time would have access to...
Forum: Pub Talk 05-29-2017, 01:20 PM
Replies: 43
Views: 5,652
Posted By Flower and Dean
To be honest, sometimes cases of murders and...

To be honest, sometimes cases of murders and disappearances targeting vulnerable populations don't get as much of a media hype as you'd expect. I think part of the reason why they did in Victorian...
Forum: Hutchinson, George 05-29-2017, 01:17 PM
Replies: 1,197
Views: 216,652
Posted By Flower and Dean
We honestly don't know that Sarah Lewis didn't...

We honestly don't know that Sarah Lewis didn't tell anyone what she saw. I've seen a couple of posts saying he only had 1-2 hours to prepare his testimony after the inquest, does anyone have a source...
Forum: General Discussion 05-28-2017, 09:52 AM
Replies: 7
Views: 2,216
Posted By Flower and Dean
I haven't seen the phrase anywhere in relation to...

I haven't seen the phrase anywhere in relation to the Ripper, so I think it's safe to assume it's probably an attempt to coin a new catchy moniker that just didn't work out.
Forum: Hutchinson, George 05-28-2017, 09:51 AM
Replies: 1,197
Views: 216,652
Posted By Flower and Dean
No, we don't. We have his word that he followed...

No, we don't.

We have his word that he followed Kelly and a man around. We don't even know with certainty that he was telling the truth about seeing her and a man or following them.

If he was...
Forum: Hutchinson, George 05-27-2017, 04:17 PM
Replies: 1,197
Views: 216,652
Posted By Flower and Dean
I could excuse myself too as I don't know if...

I could excuse myself too as I don't know if Astrakhan Man was the killer or even existed at all but I'll bite. :scratchchin:

Perhaps Astrakhan Man didn't care that someone looked at his face. If...
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