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  • Bulldog
    Detective
    • Feb 2008
    • 117

    #1

    Where was White Street?

    Does anyone know where White Street (not White's Row) was located? I can't find it on my 1891 map which lacks a street index.

    The Times on 28 February 1891 reported Ellen Callana's testimony at the Inquest into Frances Coles's death:

    'I left them at the bottom of Commercial-street going towards the Minories, and I went to Theobald’s lodging-house, Brick-lane. I watched them till they turned round by the publichouse into White-street.'

    Any ideas?

    Thanks.

    Bulldog
  • George Hutchinson
    Inspector
    • Feb 2008
    • 1089

    #2
    Well, I've drawn a blank. Checked out my 1873 and 1894 maps and the only thing I can find in the area is White Lion Street off Commercial Street near Hanbury Street.

    It's probably staring me in the face.

    PHILIP
    Tour guides do it loudly in front of a crowd.

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    • John Bennett
      Premium Member
      • Feb 2008
      • 1205

      #3
      When I was doing some family history research, I had an old marriage certificate which stated the groom's address as Thomas Passage, White Street.

      This White Street (the only one I can find remotely near Brick Lane) is now the northernmost part of Vallance Road, where it joins Bethnal Green Road.


      Actually, it's nowhere near the Minories. Oh well, back to work.
      Last edited by John Bennett; 07-06-2008, 04:15 PM.

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      • Mike Covell
        Superintendent
        • Feb 2008
        • 2957

        #4
        I looked at my little stash and followed the directions, finding Commercial Street and Brick Lane but not much from there. I put the Minories under the magnifying glass but could not see the street in question.
        Regards Mike

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        • Rob Clack
          Inactive
          • Feb 2008
          • 1708

          #5
          As far as I can tell there isn't a White Street between Commercial Street and Minories. I only know of three. The one John mentioned above. One near Moorgate and one by Harrow Alley (the Houndsditch one). The only place I can think it would be is White Swan Yard which was a dead end.

          Rob

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          • Suzi
            Superintendent
            • Feb 2008
            • 2167

            #6
            Hi Rob- There is White Kennett Street E1..tantalisingly close.. (Think that's the Houndsditch one- well obviously it is!!!)
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            P'raps the Kennett was 'silent'... like the P in swimming!!!
            Last edited by Suzi; 07-06-2008, 04:51 PM.
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            • Mike Covell
              Superintendent
              • Feb 2008
              • 2957

              #7
              Perhaps it was "White Street" but over the years it has become a "darker shade of grey street"!!
              Regards Mike

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              • Rob Clack
                Inactive
                • Feb 2008
                • 1708

                #8
                Originally posted by Suzi View Post
                Hi Rob- There is White Kennett Street E1..tantalisingly close.. (Think that's the Houndsditch one- well obviously it is!!!)
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                P'raps the Kennett was 'silent'... like the P in swimming!!!
                Hi Suzi,

                Yep, that's the same one. Going by what was reported in 'The Times' it would have to be off either Whitechapel High Street or Aldgate High Street.

                Rob X

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                • Suzi
                  Superintendent
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 2167

                  #9
                  That's more than likely it I suppose...hang on will check for a pub in a White Street or whatever E1.......
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                  • Rob Clack
                    Inactive
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 1708

                    #10
                    This might help Suzi, from January 1887.

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                    Rob X

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                    • Celesta
                      Chief Inspector
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 1625

                      #11
                      This is a link to the Dictionary of Victorian London. On Whitbread's Map of London c.1871, you will find White Street just a block south of Dorset Street and a block north of Wentworth. Or, at least, it looks like White St. on this old map. It will be on the left hand margin of the map and intersects Commercial. Is this labelled incorrectly? I don't know, personally.


                      "What our ancestors would really be thinking, if they were alive today, is: "Why is it so dark in here?"" From Pyramids by Sir Terry Pratchett, a British National Treasure.

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                      • Suzi
                        Superintendent
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 2167

                        #12
                        Cheers Rob-
                        There's White Church St/Lane too...Hmmmmmmmmmmmm just up from the delightfully named Backchurch Lane on the road to Berner St!!
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                        • Mike Covell
                          Superintendent
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 2957

                          #13
                          Hi Celesta, My 1873 map shows this street as now being "White's Row", which was also going by the same name in the 1894 map of the area.

                          The plot thickens.....
                          Regards Mike

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                          • Suzi
                            Superintendent
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 2167

                            #14
                            Hi Celesta-
                            That is White's Row sadly not White St- These days the other side of the unspeakable Car park!

                            Suz x
                            'Would you like to see my African curiosities?'

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                            • Celesta
                              Chief Inspector
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 1625

                              #15
                              I wondered, Mike and Suzi, if it was mislabeled, (as I thought it was Row) on the the 1871 map. I wonder if it ever was White St? The Pocket Atlas, from the Dictionary of Vict. London, shows it as Row, which is why I came back to this thread. :-) I thought maybe the witness knew it as White St.

                              Thank you!
                              "What our ancestors would really be thinking, if they were alive today, is: "Why is it so dark in here?"" From Pyramids by Sir Terry Pratchett, a British National Treasure.

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