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I had some time to waste yesterday, and decided to go nosing round the
net looking for some info for a new thread that I'm planning...and I came across this web site :-victorianripper.niceboard.net
I don't quite know if it is all to be believed but the 'facts' given are so concrete that they can be independently verified. If all this info is truth, then it certainly opens up a new area to be investigated ! I am certainly excited by the implications...
First of all, the author of the posts on Hutchinson claims to be in contact with a member of the Donald family, who is a descendant of Toppy. This is a photo of Toppy's elder sister, Jane and her info (note the Essex connection).
(see attachements)Emily Jane HUTCHINSON
Born: 26 April 1861, Hornchurch, Essex
Marriage: James KNOTT on 4 April 1886 in Lewisham, Kent
Died: 10 November 1932, Hadleigh, Essex aged 71
Buried: 15 November 1932, Hadleigh Churchyard, Hadleigh, Essex
Astonishingly, the author ("Karen") makes this assertion :
"George Hutchinson Onboard The Ophir
After discovering that George Hutchinson was travelling from Australia to London and back again, I began studying passenger lists and found something that may be of interest to my readers:
A George Hutchinson, born in 1866 and listed as a labourer, was onboard the Ophir leaving London for Sydney Australia in 1894.
Name: George HUTCHINSON
Date of departure: 21 September 1894
Port of departure: London
Passenger destination port: Sydney, Australia
Passenger destination: Sydney, Australia
Date of Birth: 1866 (calculated from age)
Age: 28
Marital status: Single
Sex: Male
Occupation: Labr
Passenger recorded on: Page 7 of 13
Ship: OPHIR
Official Number: 0
Master's name: J F Ruthven
Steamship Line:
Where bound: Sydney, Australia
Square feet: 6833
Registered tonnage: 6910
Passengers on voyage: 389
Here is another interesting one:
Name: Geo HUTCHINSON
Date of departure: 19 January 1912
Port of departure: London
Passenger destination port: Adelaide, Australia
Passenger destination: Adelaide, Australia
Date of Birth:
Age:
Marital Status: Single
Sex: Male
Occupation: Labourer
Passenger recorded on: Page 5 of 32
Ship: ORVIETO
Official Number: 129628
Master: W S Shelford
Steamship Line: Orient
Where bound: Australia
Square feet: 14466
Registered tonnage: 7421
Passengers on voyage: 1011
Here are a couple more passenger records of a George Hutchinson sailing from London to Australia:" (follows more dates from 1920s)
Note: this concerns Toppy, and his occupation is given as 'labourer'.
I imagine that 'Karen' was pointed in the direction of Australia by her Toppy family contact. This begs the question that IF Hutch & Toppy are one
(and I've never doubted it) -was he travelling abroad between 1888 and 1894? Are there any ripper type crimes in Australia or NZ to be found ? Is this one reason why the murders stopped in London ?
Karen shows a picture of a George Hutchinson who patented a mechanical milking machine in New Zealand in 1906 (see attachements) and asks if is this Toppy aged 40 ?
"I found the photo on the left while looking through some newspaper archives in New Zealand. This is a photo of a Mr. George Hutchinson who invented a new cow-milking machine. I placed the photo of George Hutchinson, supplied by his son Reginald Hutchinson, beside it for comparison and I must say, that I see a great deal of similiarities in the shape of the eyebrows and eyes, the same thickness of the bottom lip, the same moustache and the very same look about the eyes.
Source: Progress, Volume I, Issue 9, 2 July 1906, Page 24
Here is the article in its entirety http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi...chinson%22-all
I also found the patent information at the CIPO (Canadian Intellectual Property Office) and the info can be found at these links:
http://patents.ic.gc.ca/cipo/cpd/en/...&start=1&num=5 "
It certainly looks like it to me ! Furthermore if we consider that Hutchinson might have been a groom, from a rural background, who ended up a plumber, then him inventing a 'milking machine' seems less whacky (as opposed to if he were just a 'labourer').
net looking for some info for a new thread that I'm planning...and I came across this web site :-victorianripper.niceboard.net
I don't quite know if it is all to be believed but the 'facts' given are so concrete that they can be independently verified. If all this info is truth, then it certainly opens up a new area to be investigated ! I am certainly excited by the implications...
First of all, the author of the posts on Hutchinson claims to be in contact with a member of the Donald family, who is a descendant of Toppy. This is a photo of Toppy's elder sister, Jane and her info (note the Essex connection).
(see attachements)Emily Jane HUTCHINSON
Born: 26 April 1861, Hornchurch, Essex
Marriage: James KNOTT on 4 April 1886 in Lewisham, Kent
Died: 10 November 1932, Hadleigh, Essex aged 71
Buried: 15 November 1932, Hadleigh Churchyard, Hadleigh, Essex
Astonishingly, the author ("Karen") makes this assertion :
"George Hutchinson Onboard The Ophir
After discovering that George Hutchinson was travelling from Australia to London and back again, I began studying passenger lists and found something that may be of interest to my readers:
A George Hutchinson, born in 1866 and listed as a labourer, was onboard the Ophir leaving London for Sydney Australia in 1894.
Name: George HUTCHINSON
Date of departure: 21 September 1894
Port of departure: London
Passenger destination port: Sydney, Australia
Passenger destination: Sydney, Australia
Date of Birth: 1866 (calculated from age)
Age: 28
Marital status: Single
Sex: Male
Occupation: Labr
Passenger recorded on: Page 7 of 13
Ship: OPHIR
Official Number: 0
Master's name: J F Ruthven
Steamship Line:
Where bound: Sydney, Australia
Square feet: 6833
Registered tonnage: 6910
Passengers on voyage: 389
Here is another interesting one:
Name: Geo HUTCHINSON
Date of departure: 19 January 1912
Port of departure: London
Passenger destination port: Adelaide, Australia
Passenger destination: Adelaide, Australia
Date of Birth:
Age:
Marital Status: Single
Sex: Male
Occupation: Labourer
Passenger recorded on: Page 5 of 32
Ship: ORVIETO
Official Number: 129628
Master: W S Shelford
Steamship Line: Orient
Where bound: Australia
Square feet: 14466
Registered tonnage: 7421
Passengers on voyage: 1011
Here are a couple more passenger records of a George Hutchinson sailing from London to Australia:" (follows more dates from 1920s)
Note: this concerns Toppy, and his occupation is given as 'labourer'.
I imagine that 'Karen' was pointed in the direction of Australia by her Toppy family contact. This begs the question that IF Hutch & Toppy are one
(and I've never doubted it) -was he travelling abroad between 1888 and 1894? Are there any ripper type crimes in Australia or NZ to be found ? Is this one reason why the murders stopped in London ?
Karen shows a picture of a George Hutchinson who patented a mechanical milking machine in New Zealand in 1906 (see attachements) and asks if is this Toppy aged 40 ?
"I found the photo on the left while looking through some newspaper archives in New Zealand. This is a photo of a Mr. George Hutchinson who invented a new cow-milking machine. I placed the photo of George Hutchinson, supplied by his son Reginald Hutchinson, beside it for comparison and I must say, that I see a great deal of similiarities in the shape of the eyebrows and eyes, the same thickness of the bottom lip, the same moustache and the very same look about the eyes.
Source: Progress, Volume I, Issue 9, 2 July 1906, Page 24
Here is the article in its entirety http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi...chinson%22-all
I also found the patent information at the CIPO (Canadian Intellectual Property Office) and the info can be found at these links:
http://patents.ic.gc.ca/cipo/cpd/en/...&start=1&num=5 "
It certainly looks like it to me ! Furthermore if we consider that Hutchinson might have been a groom, from a rural background, who ended up a plumber, then him inventing a 'milking machine' seems less whacky (as opposed to if he were just a 'labourer').
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