Any info on the vics speaking voices?!

[j.r-ahde]

Hello you all!

Just curious about this again;

OK, a tough thing to talk about.

We know, that Liz Stride was quiet, while sober...

MJK was noisy, while drunk, very quiet, while sober (when did she do that?!:rolleyes2: )...

Catherine had a sharp tongue...

All the best
Jukka

[kensei]

Isn't it fascinating how we want to know every intricate little detail we possibly can about them? Pity we have no sound recordings (though there almost surely must be some of at least a few of the Ripper suspects, I would think). We can only imagine the victims' voices and compare what we imagine to what we've heard in the movies. Both Heather Gramm and Lysette Anthony as Mary Kelly got the Irish accent right, but probably too pure of a one. As for Liz Stride, no movie to my knowledge has ever even acknowledged that she was Swedish, making her English instead. For shame.

[Sam Flynn]

If Kelly had indeed lived in Wales since she was "very young", I have no doubt that she'd have spoken in a noticeably Welsh accent. After perhaps 15 years, first as a child and then as a young woman, in one place, the cadences of her adopted home would have predominated. She may have preserved some idiosyncrasies of Irish pronunciation in some words (e.g. saying "annie" instead of "any"), but not all.

Stride, I believe, was said to speak English with very little of a "foreign" accent - although whether that made her sound like a broad cockney (or a cockney broad) we don't know.

(By the way, Ken - I thought Lysette Anthony's Irish accent was pretty dire.)

[The Grave Maurice]

Carrotty Mustache: "Would ya care fer a sip o' beer, m'dear?"

MJK: "Oh, look you now, boyo, isn't it. Ta."

[j.r-ahde]

Hello Sam!

My Irish friend once thought, that MJK could have used the Western-Irish version "Da" instead of "Daddy", when talking about her family...:scholar:

All the best
Jukka

PS. A technical question; As far as I know, the first recording device was a wax machine of some sort. Did it already exist about this time?

[Brenda]

There were recordings as early as 1877. If you are interested in the history of recorded sound, this site is never-ending fun:

www.tinfoil.com

They have a treasure trove of early recorded music, singers, and speakers.

[AlfredFJones]

It would be very interesting if we could have a sample of one of these ladies' voices.... alas, there is probably none such recording that exists.

[Magpie]

Abraham Lincoln and Queen Victoria are just two of many whose voices have been recorded.

[halomanuk]

The films and TV series always use the stereotypical voices which are too exaggerated and obvious - Eddowes,cockney....Kelly,Irish.
So you get the classic 'all roight guvna ?' and 'top o the morning to ya'..

Makes me cringe sometimes when i watch them.
Basically we will never know their accents or voice patterns,just whatever has been said at the inquests about them.